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Jon Robbins
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I love the SHURE SM7B it's a real workhorse and you can get intimate sounds but you really need to jack the 528's...wonderful mic.
yes, ex CC. |
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Ed Gambill
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Thank you Erik
I’ve been collecting for many many years. I’m a Shure, AKG and Peluso fan when it comes to mics. John Pelusos Mic Lab is about 70 mile from my home so I have been able to visit with him and pick out some gear. John use to work for Shure years ago.
I know what you mean about induced noise with high gain. I have noticed on my unit that I get a lot of hiss in the output/monitoring stage. But the audio is clean. I saw a photo of the mobile rig that Harlan Hogan uses and the I/O was a UA-25. So it’s what you like and feel good about that counts. I really want an RME FireFace800 but that a bit off.
The first ever microphone I used on air was a SM7, I wish I had one, never been a RE-20 fan. I used the RE-20 at another radio station. If all else fails I’ve got a US made SM57, none better. I’m trying to decide between The Peluso 22-251 for my main VO mic or some thing else. I bought three 22-251’s that are matched for DECCA TREE work and would like to keep them for that or studio tracking. I am thinking about a 22-47LE, made by Peluso. While at the lab John plaid two demo tracks one a Telefunken USA U-47 that cost about 9.5grand and his 22- 47LE cost 1.5 grand. Both were impressive for male vocal. The Peluso held its own. |
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Gregory Houser
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Joined: 15 May 2005
Posts: 177
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| Posted: Tue Jul 10, 2007, 17:48 (GMT) Post subject: |
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My VO rig is pretty straightfoward:
U87 / RE-27 / U47
Purple 77 / Fearn VT-7
GV preamp / 610 preamp (Telefunken tubes)
Lil' FrEQ / Tube Tech EQ-1A
I'm currently testing out some new AD/DA units to replace what I've got, and recently introduced a Horch to the lineup. |
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Lance Blair
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Joined: 25 Apr 2005
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007, 04:56 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Gregory Houser wrote: | My VO rig is pretty straightfoward:
U87 / RE-27 / U47
Purple 77 / Fearn VT-7
GV preamp / 610 preamp (Telefunken tubes)
Lil' FrEQ / Tube Tech EQ-1A
I'm currently testing out some new AD/DA units to replace what I've got, and recently introduced a Horch to the lineup. |
Pretty straightforward...for a really sweet setup! A Horch??? Coooool.
Questions: which preamp do you prefer for each mic/or read?
What do you think of Tube Tech gear? I have my eyes/ears set on Fearn gear.
Which AD/DA units do you have, and which ones are you testing?
I don't mean to be the Spanish Inquisition, but you seem to know your stuff.
Final question: which hardware and editing software do you use? |
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Andy Quiñones
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Joined: 19 Feb 2006
Posts: 187
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007, 06:17 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Well for what it's worth here's my current chain:
Neumann TLM 103 / Rode Broadcaster
Avalon Vt 737 pre amp
Marantz PD 670 digital recorder
Edited on intel (non-internet connected custom built PC) with Soundforge then Acid if necessary
*NB: Generally I find it best to eq vox tracks in analog BEFORE submitting them into a digital format since plugins like noise gates or de-essing while editing also sacrifices a lot of vox textures--you gain and lose some while editing so I find it best to lay them as best eq'd in the first place--but what am I talking about I don't even have a demo up!
I'm working on that, no hurry here
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Dan Powell
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Joined: 19 Jan 2007
Posts: 89
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| Posted: Thu Jul 12, 2007, 13:39 (GMT) Post subject: Budget chain |
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Well when you can't afford the best...or much more than the worst I got this...
Takstar SM-52 condenser
Phonics a-120b
Emu 0404
Audacity 1.3.3
Total cost approx $300 US
...I do what I can with what I can get. |
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Gregory Houser
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Joined: 15 May 2005
Posts: 177
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007, 17:29 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Lance Blair wrote: |
Pretty straightforward...for a really sweet setup! A Horch??? Coooool.
Questions: which preamp do you prefer for each mic/or read?
What do you think of Tube Tech gear? I have my eyes/ears set on Fearn gear.
Which AD/DA units do you have, and which ones are you testing?
I don't mean to be the Spanish Inquisition, but you seem to know your stuff.
Final question: which hardware and editing software do you use? |
It's all good.
I've got PT, but I lean more towards Audition (I don't like being dependant on HW fixes, especially since DD doesn't exactly inspire me with build quality).
AD/DA: I've got a HEDD and an Aurora sitting in the rack for my VO room, and I'm battling them out to see which one I prefer. The Aurora is very clean, which I like for VO, but the HEDD is extremely versitile, which is also desirable. Sadly, I can't justify having more than one. It'll be tough to return these to the owner once I'm done. That said, I've been bouncing between an AES16 and a modded 1220 for now.
There's a long story behind my choices, and one saved for another forum.
I like some of Tube Tech's gear, but Fearn is definitely better for preamps. Requisite Audio FTW though. I finally got to test one of these last month and it's on my "to audition list" for next year.
As for mic and pres combination. I usually go with tossing the valve mics on the GV and the rest on the 610 (the U87 with it sounds really nice), but I've also got a nice little LMNOPre that I'm loving, especially with the U87 and Horch. It's rather versitile and with the Horch in particular gets a wide pallete of sound.
Treat these things like brushes, there's no real right or wrong when you're experimenting. If I need clean, I go to the GV with a U87 or U89 and reduce the transformer saturation. If I want something with a bit more body I can go to either a valve with the GV or LMNOPre or any clean mic, OR... take the U87 to a Fearn or 610 (swapped out the tubes, which made a lot of difference with this pre... not a real fan of the UA re-releases, though some have sounded nice when using Mullards). After a while you get a picture in your head of what you want and what you can easily do with your gear. When you see the copy, you know what kind of sound you want to try and go from there.
Always start clean... it's easy to add some distortion or saturation later. Not so easy the other way around. 
But here's the most important part, and the one we all ought to know (but seems forgotten all too often). It's not about the gear. Sure it's nice to have, makes life easier, etc. But a great talent for copy will come through no matter what you use (hell Kirby Morrow uses a $100 preamp for his home stuff and most of us would kill to be in his position as a voice talent).
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Gregory Houser
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007, 17:32 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Andy Quiñones wrote: |
*NB: Generally I find it best to eq vox tracks in analog BEFORE submitting them into a digital format since plugins like noise gates or de-essing while editing also sacrifices a lot of vox textures--you gain and lose some while editing so I find it best to lay them as best eq'd in the first place--but what am I talking about I don't even have a demo up!
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When you can, try tracking it clean and then running it through an outboard processor (compressor and EQ). I think you'd like the outcome.
EQ ITB isn't too bad, but no plug-in really does a good job at compression IME.
But you know what they say about opinions... |
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Ed Gambill
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Joined: 04 Jun 2007
Posts: 585
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007, 18:01 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Hey Gregory
I’ve got an Idea; in fact I had it before I posted to this thread. You and I have fairly extensive mic closets that is a given. Colin posted a link to Transoms mic shot out; I had listened to it about a year ago. While it’s meaningful to reporters, our scoop of sound recording is different.
Let’s each record the same copy and up load blind demos for members to hear. I will most likely jus use my Edirol UA-25, I saw where Harland Hogan is useing one in his portable rig. You use what you will.
If you have a SM 57 throw that in as a bit of reference such as it will be. I also think that other member with other mic might also do the same thing. |
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Gregory Houser
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007, 18:16 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Might be worth trying... I've had people asking for me to put up clips of the Horch for a while now anyway.
Ping me in a few weeks when I've got this area all set up and we'll do it!
However, if I can get a few hours free in the studio before then to do it, I'll just do it from there
*goes back to assembling Omnirax desk* |
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Colin Campbell
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007, 18:44 (GMT) Post subject: |
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The trouble is there are many other variables in different studios beside the mic. To do it right, you have to have the same voice and the same chain and only change the mic.
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Andy Quiñones
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007, 19:15 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Quote: | Greg: try tracking it clean and then running it through an outboard processor (compressor and EQ). I think you'd like the outcome.
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Thanks for the tip Greg--I'm gonna try that
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Gregory Houser
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| Posted: Fri Jul 13, 2007, 19:16 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Colin Campbell wrote: | | The trouble is there are many other variables in different studios beside the mic. To do it right, you have to have the same voice and the same chain and only change the mic. |
Actually that's not precisely true. One of the things that makes Transome's shootout so nice is that it has different talent in front of the mic to show that some mics work better with people who speak in higher/lower registers than others.
However, your comments regarding the chain are spot on. If I were to do it, I'd want to do it relatively clean with a couple of different mics and at least one other person reading the same copy in the same booth on the same gear.
FWIW: Don't try to assemble the Force series desks from Omnirax without the aid of a cordless screwdriver or drill with screwdriver attachment. It'll take you forever (and even with power tools it's taking a wee bit). Definitely giving points out for packaging though as it survived FedEx quite nicely (one box was rather mangled, but a cursory inspection showed no defects, the bastage dropped another box off the truck onto the asphalt... thankfully it held the screws, casters, etc and was heavily padded). |
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Jacob Ekstroem
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Joined: 23 Jul 2007
Posts: 721
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| Posted: Mon Jul 23, 2007, 16:01 (GMT) Post subject: My chain |
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First post here . This is what I use:
- Rode NTK Tube Condenser mic (new mic in due April 2008)
- Tube-Tech MEC 1A Tube Recording Channel (also own a JoeMeek VC1Q)
- DBX 266 "Project 1" Compressor/Gate - NOT the newer XL-version! (use the gate sometimes, since my studio isn't 100% soundproof, will be in April though)
- Behringer MX 2804A Mixing console (old... on life support, expecting to replace any day)
- M-Audio Delta 2496 soundcard (soon to be replaced by an Echo MIA card... when I get to it...)
- Customized DAW with Intel Core2 Duo processor, running WinXP
- Steinberg Nuendo 3, Steinberg Wavelab 4.0, plugins from Waves
- D&R phone patch
- Genelec 1019A Monitors, Sennheiser HD25 headphones
- Lots of more or less useful junk
Think that's about it.
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Tyler McKellar
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| Posted: Sat Aug 04, 2007, 04:26 (GMT) Post subject: |
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I'm currently in the process of "breaking" into the voice over business (ie., I haven't actually gotten hired for any work yet) so I'm also in the process of building my studio. So here's what I've got thus far.
* Samson C01, Sennheiser E835, Shure SM48 x4
* Presonus Tubepre
* Behringer MX602A (mainly used for routing and playback)
* Behringer MDX2100 & MDX1600 Comps/Gates/Limiters
* RME Digi 96/8 Pad
* PC with AMD Athlon 64 2.0GHz 3400+ running Ubuntu Studio (yep, I'm crazy enough to run Linux)
* Ardour DAW
* Sony MDR-V700DJ, MDR-V500DJ headphones and Altec Lansing $30 Wal Mart specials
I'm definitely going to get a new mic. I'll more than likely aim for a Heil PR-40 or a Studio Projects mic. Haven't decided which yet. I don't mind the Tubepre as I only paid $20 for it. Haven't played around with the MDX-1600 yet but the 2100 is solid so I'll probably hang on to it for a while. The RME card is great except I'm using the unbalanced stereo input at the moment which can give me some rf issues. Eventually I'll either get one of the balanced input RME expansion cards for it or buy a converter to use the adat inputs on the card. If I do the latter I might start out with the Behringer ADA-8000 as I've heard it doesn't sound too bad (anybody that has used it feel free to give me a review) and I'll probably use it as just a straight AD/DA converter. I think I'm going to stick with using my headphones for a while as well before I make the jump to get some decent studio monitors. |
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