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September Day Leach
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007, 17:44 (GMT)    Post subject: Does it really make a difference? Reply with quote

So I started out with a Sennheiser mic, computer, factory sound card which I ran my mic directly into and Audacity when I began home recording in our computer room which had 3 comps running and 2 big windows. Now things are better, I've upgraded mics, software and the like. But I can honestly say, there are a lot of my older recordings that don't sound that different in quality to my new ones. Of course, the mic has helped the warmth and quality of the way my voice sounds, but the background stuff, the ambient noise, it just doesn't seem to be any different. I can't hear it on my older stuff and I don't here it on my newer stuff that I've recorded from home or at remote locations. Compared to a lot of you guys' set-ups, I'm sure I'm running a fairly ghetto-fabulous workshop. So, seriously. What do you really NEED to record from home? What's something I could get now and hear a big difference when I use it? Have my demos sounded subpar with background noise and the like?
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Joe J Thomas
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PostPosted: Sat Jun 02, 2007, 17:57 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi September,

Believe it or not, I use a Shure SM-58 Mike, run through a PreSonus TubePre, directly into the 1/8" line-in jack on my sound card. A bit of noise cancelling software and my recordings come out pretty good.

Most of my clients have no problems with the quality of my final output. For extra measure, I use a bit of Auralex foam around my mike when recording.

If a client wanted a bit more, or something like ISDN, there are plenty of studios nearby. I just pass on any studio time charges on to them.

All that being said, I would like to get a condenser mike, processor, and better connection to my computer (USB or RCA maybe)

For my money, it doesn't seem to make much of a difference.

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Steve Royal
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007, 02:19 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi September & Joe,

I'm running a Behringer B2 with sE Reflexion filter into a Fostex MR8 MkII and then processing/editing with Soundforge. The only time my sound card is part of the chain is when I'm monitoring, so a decent set of speakers is vital.

....maybe I'll get around to buying some one day! Smile

I'm finding with the B2 that while it suits my voice, it also is very sensitive to room colour, background noise, etc....which is why I use a Reflexion filter.
Using that reasoning, all home studios should be using $9.99 dynamics!
Smile

But, I agree with Joe that in the end it makes little difference. Once your voice goes through your own processing and is then (often) re-processed, mixed with music, fx, etc, any small acoustic flaws in your recording probably won't be noticed.

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Lynne Alston
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007, 03:29 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve wrote:which is why I use a Reflexion filter.
Using that reasoning, all home studios should be using $9.99 dynamics!

What is a reflexion filter?

Lynne
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DB Cooper
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007, 04:36 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

http://www.seelectronics.com/rf.html
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Lynne Alston
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007, 04:54 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks DB, very interesting write up, have to add that to my wish list.

Lynne
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Joe J Thomas
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007, 06:22 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Steve Royal wrote:
I'm running a Behringer B2 with sE Reflexion filter into a Fostex MR8 MkII and then processing/editing with Soundforge. Steve Wink

Hey Steve,

So, you like the Reflexion?

It's been on my wish list - any down side to it?

Thanks,
Joe
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Steve Royal
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007, 07:41 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Quote:
So, you like the Reflexion?

It's been on my wish list - any down side to it?

Thanks,
Joe

Hey Joe,
Well, there's the cost....

Apart from that, it's a very nice little unit. The only disadvantage is that if the mic is moved too close to the back of the filter it removes too much colour and your voice sounds completely dead.

It's a bit of a balancing act getting the mic in the right spot for whichever style of read you're doing.

I've found that 'a little bit deader' is better for manic-style retail reads, but a little more colour is good for the more sane presentations.

The room I'm using for my booth has heavy stone walls (about 2 feet thick), but a wooden ceiling and wooden floor. The Reflexion is great for toning down the effect of the timber.

....or, it tames the timbre of the timber (groan again!) Wink

I'll go away now.

Steve
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Joe J Thomas
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007, 15:20 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Thanks for the info on the Reflexion, Steve.
Sounds like it's nice, but a bit tempermental...

Cheers,
Joe
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Cira Larkin - Studio 53
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PostPosted: Sun Jun 03, 2007, 19:19 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Joe J Thomas wrote:
Thanks for the info on the Reflexion, Steve.
Sounds like it's nice, but a bit tempermental...

Cheers,
Joe


Joe, I bought my Reflexion filter about 3 months ago and I'm very pleased with it (and, it's portable!)
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Lance Blair
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PostPosted: Mon Jun 04, 2007, 03:47 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

September, I really like your work, and I think I could listen to your voice through a pair of cans and string and be entertained. Maybe because the quality is already there in your voice subpar equipment isn't so much of a distraction. I would say that often female voices are easier to record well unless you're running into sibilance issues or a lack of presence, but your voice doesn't fall anywhere near those issues. Listening to your work, I can tell the difference (I think) between your older and newer stuff, but I come from a audio engineer background first. Your newer work sounds extra terrific, so I'd say it was worth the investment! BTW, your website is one of the better ones out there, especially for female talent.

I see that a lot of your work is Atlanta based (like me) if you ever want to shoot the breeze my info is at www.lanceblair.net.

take care and good luck!
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Todd Ellis
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007, 21:26 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Yeah - they're pretty steep. I got it into my head that i'd build one. i followed the specs on the product website and came up with the filter i posted in this thread.

http://voiceoversavvy.com/ftopic675.html&highlight=reflexion

without a direct comparison it'd be hard to say if i got it right. in MY room it deadened the mic too much ... it's hanging in the closet now - awaiting a future use ... somewhere ...

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Steve Royal
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007, 21:43 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Hi Todd,
I had a look at your 'ReflixiTodd'...well done!

In that photo, the mic looks pretty close to the back of the filter, and that's gonna make it sound deader than dead.

Try moving the mic out about half-way. That should improve things a bit.

Steve


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Todd Ellis
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PostPosted: Wed Jun 06, 2007, 22:13 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

thanks steve. my room is boarderline "too dead" now - but i'm planning a trip soon and i'm going to take it with me and try it on the road.
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