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Erik Sheppard
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| Colin Campbell wrote: | | Erik... you've got that RE-20/528e sounding pretty damn good buddy. |
Thanks man, still working in the voice before it. A few more jobs and it will be TLM103/VoxBox. We'll see if that helps. I'll throw money at my gear instead of more training. Probably not the best idea.
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Colin Campbell
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| Posted: Sat Aug 18, 2007, 03:46 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Erik Sheppard wrote: | | Colin Campbell wrote: | | Erik... you've got that RE-20/528e sounding pretty damn good buddy. |
Thanks man, still working in the voice before it. A few more jobs and it will be TLM103/VoxBox. We'll see if that helps. I'll throw money at my gear instead of more training. Probably not the best idea. |
I like what you got goin' on right now pal.
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Jon Robbins
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| Robert Jadah wrote: | | To me, Jon, you were too cartoony. That belonged in a Family Guy or Simpsons episode: Gruff and overplayed. Good caricature, though. |
Robert, you're absolutely correct, it was a character and maybe not very well performed, maybe even cartoony as you suggest. This particular piece was not something I can naturally do given the direction of the seeker and I disclaim the fact that it is nowhere near a David McCullough narration ala the Ken Burns Documentary Civil War, but, it was fun to try, because that is what we all do here...try. We all give it a go and expose ourselves to the critics in the audience when maybe we should just stand down and save ourselves the embarrassment because there will always be someone with more talent, someone better suited for the role, someone with more experience and know how. Many of us, myself included, are learning and I for one welcome constructive and honest criticism that might help me grow, tangibility. Maybe the lesson here is that not every script, not every lead is something that everyone should attempt..."Jon maybe this script was outside of what you are naturally capable of...go stand in the corner over there" is a better pill to swallow than "cartoony"--but I appreciate your candor and honest opinion even though it is bathed in sarcasm with a hint of Moosehead-Thanks 
David I thought you did a great job for a first time effort, you have a natural gait for this narration, the acting and your ability to bring "it" off the page will come with practice I am sure. Nice effort.
Brad, will agree with Robert that the slate was distracting but the read was good. Watch your pacing, you wanted to run thru some of the lines and the listener might have to catch up...you had a good feel for the character I thought.
Grant thought you were breathy in your read---I don't even know if that's a freaking word, seemed like you were breathing in the wrong places which distracted my ear away from your content; I wanted you to bring the words off the page more.
Thom as always you are a master and I appreciate your presence here which encourages all of us to reach for the higher bar you set with your reads--the production BTW was fabulous, but maybe overwhelmed your excellent interpretation which did not need help.
Colin, in your effort to sound less like an announcer you shifted the gear too low IMHO, almost lazy and too laid back...you have a great voice which prints well. Your natural energy is fine, try "reading ahead" instead of reading in the moment which will encourage the conversational interpretation you're looking for, make those words in the script yours not the writer's.
Now I'm going back to practice my Family Guy reads. 
...for those of you who are audiobook fans...here is the real deal, David McCullough, Author and Narrator--an excerpt from 1776. Enjoy!
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Colin Campbell
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David reads that with such a lack of drama.
I am a fan of his.
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Deby Cedars
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| Has anyone done the (British) Florida Car spot?
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David Oxford
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| Colin Campbell wrote: | David reads that with such a lack of drama.
I am a fan of his. |
Colin:
I agree (and I'm a fan of his, too!) Would you say, though, that one of the reasons he is so profoundly suited for this kind of work is because OF his lack of drama? Specifically, he doesn't do anything to draw attention to himself or his delivery so as to allow what you're seeing on the visual documentary itself, not to mention the sounds of war, etc.) to bring the story together. Yes?
By the way, I've never written you directly on here, Colin - but I'm a big fan of yours, too. I love what you do, the way you sound, your gait of delivery, all of it. I mean that sincerely!
Best regards,
David
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Maxine Dunn
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Ok...my two cents worth which probably won't be well-received!
I'm actually not a fan of David's reading style. If I had to watch an entire documentary listening to that dead-pan delivery I think I'd go crazy! Not that I need drama and lots of emphasis, but it's just...so....well.....boring to me! I’d be stretching and fidgeting and wanting to go outside for a motorcycle ride in no time! i.e., Y-A-W-N !!
Also, I don't particularly like listening to a reader that always sounds like he has phlegm in his throat...where the whole read sounds as if he's talking through a "frog." I feel like saying, "excuse me, would you just please clear your throat and then continue?"
I do appreciate his style as appropriate for this type of material, but it wouldn't make me want to listen to the program....
Max.
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Colin Campbell
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| David Oxford wrote: | | Colin Campbell wrote: | David reads that with such a lack of drama.
I am a fan of his. |
Colin:
I agree (and I'm a fan of his, too!) Would you say, though, that one of the reasons he is so profoundly suited for this kind of work is because OF his lack of drama? Specifically, he doesn't do anything to draw attention to himself or his delivery so as to allow what you're seeing on the visual documentary itself, not to mention the sounds of war, etc.) to bring the story together. Yes?
By the way, I've never written you directly on here, Colin - but I'm a big fan of yours, too. I love what you do, the way you sound, your gait of delivery, all of it. I mean that sincerely!
Best regards,
David |
You are dead on David. Those of us who want to do documentary work can study no finer than David McCollough. Funny thing is he is a historian and a writer. He just "fell" into the voice work. If for some reason you have not seen Seabiscuit, see it. If you need an even bigger dose go to your library and get one of his audio books. He does one on the building of the Brooklyn Bridge and then there is his Truman biography. "Truman" is pure gold.
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Colin Campbell
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| Maxine Dunn wrote: | Ok...my two cents worth which probably won't be well-received!
I'm actually not a fan of David's reading style. If I had to watch an entire documentary listening to that dead-pan delivery I think I'd go crazy! Not that I need drama and lots of emphasis, but it's just...so....well.....boring to me! I’d be stretching and fidgeting and wanting to go outside for a motorcycle ride in no time! i.e., Y-A-W-N !!
Also, I don't particularly like listening to a reader that always sounds like he has phlegm in his throat...where the whole read sounds as if he's talking through a "frog." I feel like saying, "excuse me, would you just please clear your throat and then continue?"
I do appreciate his style as appropriate for this type of material, but it wouldn't make me want to listen to the program....
Max. |
Max.. I can see your point but from a purely academic point of view, what he does well is let the words be the drama, not himself. It's a fine distinction.
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Lee Gordon
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I was a little surprised at some of the reactions here on the Francis Scott Key reads, particularly to Jon's read. I thought it was not only not cartoony, but it was a pretty darned good approximation of David McCullough. I also agree with Jon, regarding Collin's read, that he really doesn't need to throttle it back to achieve the desired effect. In fact, if I were attempting to make a Ken Burns "clone" I might be inclined to use Jon or David Oxford (he, along with Jon, IMHO, came closest to capturing the McCullough style) as my narrator and would definitely hire Colin to be one of the "in his own words" characters that Burns uses throughout his documentaries.
Just because so many others have posted their FS Key reads, I guess I'll post mine as well. I do so knowing that while it might be an OK read for someone not looking for David McCullough, it certainly does not fill the bill in that department.
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Lee Gordon
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| Colin Campbell wrote: | | If you need an even bigger dose go to your library and get one of his audio books. He does one on the building of the Brooklyn Bridge and then there is his Truman biography.[/b] |
McCullough narrated the Ken Burns documentary on the Brooklyn Bridge. I believe it was the first such collaboration between McCullough and Burns. A friend of mine did the music for that production, as well as parts of the Civil War and Baseball documentaries.
For some reason, Burns used John Chancellor to narrate "Baseball" rather than McCullough, although the two men's voices bear an uncanny resemblance to each other.
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Thom Wilkins
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| Grant Holmes wrote: | | Thom, do you submit "produced" pieces to 123? or did you produce just for us?? |
Grant - I will submit dry if I feel the job is for a large production house or national spot, unless I think the piece cries out for some underscore or SFX elements.
If for a company, individual or institution - I'll usually add some production
The F.S. Key piece I posted here had additional production added for Savvy 
RE interpretation/direction:"The doc is in the style of Ken Burns. The narrator should have a David McCullough sound and delivery (think Ken Burns' "Civil War"). The voice should be grandfatherly, an aged and tired war veteran, but who can still captivate an audience with his stories. " I went with the latter (red)
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Seth Adam Sher
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