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Was I sooooo wrong to think this aud was purty darn good?
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Robert Jadah
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006, 22:18 (GMT)    Post subject: Was I sooooo wrong to think this aud was purty darn good? Reply with quote

Hello All:
Trying out this hopeful new V123 venture, I seek that rare animal - feedback - on this recent audition that I was much happy with.
Deafening silence received it.
Be brutal, be harsh, be honest.
Thank you.
R. Jadah



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Catherine DeVore
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006, 22:48 (GMT)    Post subject: Your not wrong Reply with quote

They must have been looking for something different.
You have an amazing voice and I can't imagine you having trouble getting work.
Catherine
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Michael Minetree
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006, 23:19 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tend to agree that you have some very nice tones in your voice.. My only recomendations would be to slow it down just a little and make more out of the "descriptive" elements of the copy.

Hope that helps..

Michael Minetree
MineWurx Studio
www.minewurx.com
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Erik Sheppard
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PostPosted: Wed Oct 25, 2006, 23:19 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Purty darn good, indeed. You can never tell what clients want sometimes. They could have wanted the same copy read like Snoop Dogg or a 9 year old girl and neglected to give you the right direction. I thought it was great.
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Paxton Greene
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006, 00:29 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Wonderful read, great pacing.

Cheers
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Jerry James
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006, 01:16 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Not a thing in the world wrong with that. Wish I had those pipes.
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Fred Wilharm
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006, 02:32 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

I agree with everyone about the quality of your voice, it's great.
I played this several times trying to figure out what someone would object to (I assume this was a private audition and not a cattle call, with 100 competitors). The only thing I could find was a trace of "dialect" - not sure what- but maybe they are looking for dialect free. I heard it on the word
Whistler and some other places.
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Patrick Willis
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006, 02:42 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Great voice quality, good potential.
A bit sing-song eventually and didn't move dramatically. You seemed to have grasped a style and hung onto it. Also most of the sentences began at the same pitch... again... great voice.
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Michael G Stanton
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006, 02:52 (GMT)    Post subject: Was I sooooo wrong to think this aud was purty darn good? Reply with quote

Hello Robert,
I tend to agree with the comments about the pipes...gotta love'm.

Let me ask you a question: can you see the mountains? Can you see the snow? the scenery?
I don't pretend to be the be-all-end-all but I find that if I can't "see" what I'm talking about, I can't deliver.
My interpretation of your read is that, you are passionate about the delivery, but you are not emotionally, or "visually" connecting with what you are talking about.
Just my thought. I'd be curious to know if you do "see" what you're saying.
Have a great day
MichaelG
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Big Llou Johnson
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Joined: 24 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006, 14:41 (GMT)    Post subject: Pipes are cool.. but Reply with quote

I wouldn't have booked you from that audition.. unless I was looking for a choppy.... staccatto (spell) unemotional.. delivery. You can deliver the goods... I could tell from your vo samples on your page.. If I were you.. I'd work on putting together a "great demo".. which I did not hear on your page..

Yea you've got pipes.. but as you can tell by listening to folks on here.. great pipes come a dime a dozen...literally....these days! In all actuality the "middle of the road - guy next door voice" gets more use in commercial advertising than our "deep throats"!

Keep at it.... you'll be fine.... and

Break a Legg
Big LLOU
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Nikki Saco
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Joined: 25 Aug 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Oct 26, 2006, 16:06 (GMT)    Post subject: To Borrow From Young Frankenstein: You've Got It, Mister! Reply with quote

I don't agree with a couple comments here. You're pacing and delivery were great, IMHO. I also heard some of your other demos on your own web site and you clearly have range and emotion, which is rarer with deep voices. You're terrific, and pretty cute, and obviously a professional voice actor. I note a slight accent, French-Canadian, Scandanavian? Hard to tell because it's very slight, but it works. I agree with another comment: you simply weren't the voice the client was looking for. From the varied comments here, we can all see that how a voice is received is very subjective.

You have professional credits on IMDB.com. I hope you'll share some of your experiences here.
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Robert Jadah
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PostPosted: Mon Oct 30, 2006, 15:55 (GMT)    Post subject: varied comments greatly appreciated Reply with quote

Judging by the heartfelt feedback, this site is another wonderful step by V123. I mean by this that aside from the constructive suggestions/feedback/kind caresses off my demo request, it just feels darn good to have a rallying point for our voicing community. That people would take time to help the competition - that is, each other - says a lot for us. Thanks again to all who had comments; I will certainly work on incorporating them.
The VISUALIZATION and EXPRESSIVE suggestions are dead-on. My only rationalization is that when we churn out 4/5 of these in a session, we probably flatten out a bit.
And we shouldn't.
And Fred and Nikki have crystal-clear ears to pick up my Scandinavian origin. Wow! Norwegian is my mother tongue, but I've been in North America since I was 10.
Thanks again, all.
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Julie Williams
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 04:27 (GMT)    Post subject: Hi Robert Reply with quote

Hi Robert,

I loved the quiet and peaceful delivery on your read. You were able to deliver the softness, but I would not have hired you based on that audition. Here's why.

Yes, great voices are a dime a dozen... but you're more than just a great voice... because most great voices can't be sensitive. You can. What I didn't hear was credibility. See, it didn't sound like you were seeing or feeling what you were saying. It made it sound like you were reading copy...not telling a story. There was a lot of emphasis with inflection, but no emphasis with color. That's kind of like a black and white picture...that's very well done, but wouldn't depict a sunset very well!

There are a lot of talent with voices not as good as yours...who are probably working more--simply because they can be more real in their delivery.

Please don't take this as an insult. I'm not saying, "Don't quit the day job!" You have what it takes. But it's time to refine your craft and move to the next level. Be "real" and "feel" what you're saying. Then you won't have to push or use inflection to emphasize parts that need to be emphasized in other ways.

Good Luck, Robert. You are a good talent... and it's awesome that you're helping other talent along too... (I've read some of your critiques of others)

God Bless!
Julie Williams
www.voice-overs.com
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Connie Terwilliger
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 05:16 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

While I also heard the soft calm delivery - and that slight accent, it was the very regular pacing that stood out to me - ysame amount of space between words - same length of time on each word - same amount of space between sentences - that sort of thing. There were a lot of words to say - but within that there is a unique rhythm to the words that you must find - a rhythm that makes sense with the deeper meaning of the words - and your own unique style of delivery.

Connie Terwilliger
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Robert Jadah
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PostPosted: Tue Oct 31, 2006, 06:17 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Hi Robert Reply with quote

Julie Williams wrote:
Hi Robert,

I loved the quiet and peaceful delivery on your read. You were able to deliver the softness, but I would not have hired you based on that audition. Here's why.

Yes, great voices are a dime a dozen... but you're more than just a great voice... because most great voices can't be sensitive. You can. What I didn't hear was credibility. See, it didn't sound like you were seeing or feeling what you were saying. It made it sound like you were reading copy...not telling a story. There was a lot of emphasis with inflection, but no emphasis with color. That's kind of like a black and white picture...that's very well done, but wouldn't depict a sunset very well!

There are a lot of talent with voices not as good as yours...who are probably working more--simply because they can be more real in their delivery.

Please don't take this as an insult. I'm not saying, "Don't quit the day job!" You have what it takes. But it's time to refine your craft and move to the next level. Be "real" and "feel" what you're saying. Then you won't have to push or use inflection to emphasize parts that need to be emphasized in other ways.

Good Luck, Robert. You are a good talent... and it's awesome that you're helping other talent along too... (I've read some of your critiques of others)

God Bless!
Julie Williams
www.voice-overs.com


Julie: Thanks much for the kind, constructive critique. This kind of forum happily removes much of the isolation we voicers feel as we slog away at our pursuits, alone with our mics and anxieties. I'm certain you are right on in your observations; in fact, I confess to often being taken with my own voice and figuring (wrongly, often) that I'll just lay those tones down and clients will happily hire me. This is comparable to breath-takingly beautiful actors who assume their countenances alone will propel them to Oscar fame. It don't work that way. I'll take all this feedback and work at proper emoting....Stay tuned, and thanks again.
Robert
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