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Chris Camilleri
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006, 17:15 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Phone Patch Reply with quote

Hey, John - I'm not absolutely sure of the model, but if the Rolls piece you're getting is the same one I got (and I think it is), it's not gonna do what you need. It will let you bring the phone signal into your rig, but doesn't return audio to the phone, so the director can't hear you. I'm on the road now, so can't check, but I'll confirm that when I get home...

I ended up getting a unit called the Excalibur (again, I think). Cost around $90, and works like a charm. Have used it on several jobs and radio interviews, and you can't beat it for the price...


John Moore wrote:
I just ordered a piece of gear called the "PI9 phone patch" made by Rolls.
$45.95 from Amazon/8th street music.
Looks like it will do the job, I'll let you all know how it works out when it arrives.
I use Skype for all kinds of things, but wouldn't want to rely on it when trying to impress a client with my skills and the capabilities of my studio.

Great backup though if you are in a pinch or if the client is Skype-savvy and knows the limitations.

John
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Barry Seymour
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006, 17:33 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Chris: Where do you get this 'Excalibur?' Thanks...
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Bobbin Beam
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Joined: 17 Oct 2005
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 03, 2006, 23:48 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Nice answers - I came to the right place for sure Reply with quote

Stacey Byrne wrote:
Nikki and Freddie - great information - thanks so much. Nikki your words were so succinct too. You probably right some of your own copy like I do albeit unexpectedly sometimes ?

I have a client currently that requires ISDN and am looking for a studio close to where I live (Redondo Beach) as opposed to having to drive to Studio City although I don't mind because they do a fantastic job and are reliable and nice.

Although, when I did a search, some sites claimed that like DSL, one could order for a monthly fee which was around 80 per month - I wasn't sure if it also replaced the DSL in which case it migiht be worth it when one requires it but I think your advice Nikki was where my gut was leaning.
Hi Stacey-
The ISDN lines alone are about 80.00/month. But you must also have the ISDN tranceiver, like a telos zephyr. They can be expensive, so somewhere along the way, you'll need to pencil it out to see if it makes sense. I have one, but you're about as far away from me as you'd be from Studio City. I'll bet there are some studios or talent nearby that also have ISDN. Good Luck! Bobbin Beam
Anyways - great information - and I believe JK Audio was the same product my friend used - I remember it started with 'J' - and was around the same price.

Stacey Very Happy
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Chris Camilleri
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006, 00:01 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Barry, I don't recall exactly where I bought it, but if you Google Excalibur HC-1, you should come up with some choices...

The only drawback I've had (and it's really minor) is that, in order to keep the phone signal off the recorded track, you need to hard-pan the channel with the phone input, so you only get the director in one ear. Easy to get used to, and other than that, it's golden...
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Chip Hinshaw
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Joined: 23 Feb 2006
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PostPosted: Sat Nov 04, 2006, 00:42 (GMT)    Post subject: Here's a shop that has them Reply with quote

BSW carries them.

http://www.bswusa.com/proditem.asp?item=HC-1
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Stefan Chinell
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PostPosted: Sun Nov 05, 2006, 14:22 (GMT)    Post subject: Retell 157: cheap and easy to use phone patch unit Reply with quote

Retell 157. Great for online phone direction. You record at your end and play back the recorded sound via telephone line for monitoring. Flip a switch and you can also record the conversation. Cheap and easy to use.

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Stacey Byrne
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Joined: 30 May 2006
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006, 07:31 (GMT)    Post subject: "Eye" Can't Believe ... Reply with quote

That I wrote, "right" copy. What a goofus! And what a great testimonial about my copy skills - Doh! Is there any way to edit our posts after posting? I am a ridiculously quick typist and it just happens. Then again, maybe I'm missing a few brain cells since college.
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Louis Tristan
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Joined: 07 Jul 2005
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PostPosted: Thu Nov 16, 2006, 15:29 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: "Eye" Can't Believe ... Reply with quote

I do the same thing 2! The thoughts seem to flow naturally from my mind and I assume my hands are doing the same when they move across the keyboard. You should see me drive...

Sometimes when I go back to see replies I tend to ponder and wonder who wrote that.... It’s probably because there is no deadline and you no longer need Mavis Becon Teaches Typing plus it's fun here on the forum.

There is an edit button. If you are logged, in just click onyour post and look at the top right corner.

Stacey Byrne wrote:
That I wrote, "right" copy. What a goofus! And what a great testimonial about my copy skills - Doh! Is there any way to edit our posts after posting? I am a ridiculously quick typist and it just happens. Then again, maybe I'm missing a few brain cells since college.
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John Moore
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PostPosted: Fri Nov 17, 2006, 07:01 (GMT)    Post subject: Re: Phone Patch Reply with quote

Chris, you are correct - too bad I didn't talk to you before I clicked on "checkout". the PI9 is only one way. I've been focused on other things and it hasn't been as critical as I thought to have the phone patch so far, but I'll look for the Excalibur - just for everyone's information, the PI9 is a one-way street.

Chris Camilleri wrote:
Hey, John - I'm not absolutely sure of the model, but if the Rolls piece you're getting is the same one I got (and I think it is), it's not gonna do what you need. It will let you bring the phone signal into your rig, but doesn't return audio to the phone, so the director can't hear you. I'm on the road now, so can't check, but I'll confirm that when I get home...

I ended up getting a unit called the Excalibur (again, I think). Cost around $90, and works like a charm. Have used it on several jobs and radio interviews, and you can't beat it for the price...


John Moore wrote:
I just ordered a piece of gear called the "PI9 phone patch" made by Rolls.
$45.95 from Amazon/8th street music.
Looks like it will do the job, I'll let you all know how it works out when it arrives.
I use Skype for all kinds of things, but wouldn't want to rely on it when trying to impress a client with my skills and the capabilities of my studio.

Great backup though if you are in a pinch or if the client is Skype-savvy and knows the limitations.

John
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Robert Jadah
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PostPosted: Tue Nov 28, 2006, 06:44 (GMT)    Post subject: You: Knowledge/Me: Not so Much Reply with quote

Voicers:
I had stupidly opened this topic elsewhere before striking the motherlode of all the know-how I ever needed right here....
Your collective knowledge is astounding.
Methinks the JK Auto Hybrid sounds like a nice balance between cost and function, and can now be had for $158.
Before I order one, though, I need a Kindergarten explanation of whether it will work with my Digidesign M-Box2/Pro Tools/Bell Canada hi-speed internet set-up.
Am I correct in assuming I plug something into a phone jack and something into the computer and I'm good to go? That I can have a two- or three-way conversation while I'm recording?
Surely that cannot be, since Digidesign now rules my computer audio, having usurped the built-in Windows stuff.
If you are kind enough to slap me upside the head with explanation, please realize you are speaking with the Technically Dim here.
Obviously,
Robert Jadah
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Russ McLamb
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Joined: 25 Jul 2003
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006, 15:43 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert,

Here's the there site says......

"When connecting AutoHybrid to a mixer, you may need to make a few adjustments. Make sure the XLR input on your mixer is a line level input, not mic level, and that phantom power is disabled. You should connect the Caller output of AutoHybrid to a line level input on your mixer. Next, be sure that you are sending a mix-minus signal to the Send jack of the AutoHybrid. Mix-minus is a mixer output that does not contain the Caller audio signal."

Basically this looks like it sets up like my Telos. Your phone line will plug into the hybrid, then your hybrid into your phone line. The input of the hybrid should be fed with an ALT feed from your mixer, the output of the hybrid to a regular insert on the board. Then whoevers on the phone will hear your feed and you'll hear them as well through your headphones.


Russ

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Robert Jadah
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006, 18:20 (GMT)    Post subject: I see, I see....not! Reply with quote

Thanks for the explanation. To the technically-bewildered, it almost reached clarity.
At the risk of divulging absolute idiocy, would you say that my mixer in your explanation is actually my M-Box interface? Or is it the ProTools session which needs to be channeled out of the PC?
With thanks and timid apologies for block-headedness,
Robert Jadah
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Russ McLamb
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PostPosted: Fri Dec 01, 2006, 19:03 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

Robert,

No block-headedness involved, took me a while to figure it out myself. Trial and error.Smile You could use the in's and out's of your interface but the ideal setup so you can control levels better is to have a mixer. Would make life alot easier. Nothing fancy, I had an old Behringer MX 1604A I pulled out of the closet just for that.

Russ

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Stefan Chinell
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PostPosted: Sun Dec 31, 2006, 22:04 (GMT)    Post subject: Retall 157 phone patch box: cheap and easy to use Reply with quote

Strange that no one has observed the Retell 157. It is a cheap and easy to use phone patch unit that I use frequently. You connect one cord to your telephone and the other to the AUX out on your mixer.

The unit has a jack where you connect your regular phone headset. You then call the client, get directions via your headset and record audio at your end. Then play back via AUX out and down the phone line.

The sound quality is actually so good that I've had engineers record that audio at their end for pre-mixing purpose and then played back that mix to the agency/client sitting by a loudspeaker phone at some other location.

Also, just by flipping a switch and moving the plug from AUX out to LINE in on your mixer, you can record phone conversations simple and easy.

Retell 157 works just fine for me and is also small, about the size of two icecubes. Drop me a line if you need more info: sk@artecon.se
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Colin Campbell
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PostPosted: Fri Jan 12, 2007, 18:22 (GMT)    Post subject: Reply with quote

I tried to draw it graphically but it just didn't post right. So I'll explain it. I come from the mic to a Symetrix preamp/processor that has both a main balanced output and an extra unbalanced output. I send the main output to the PC interface and the unbalanced to a tiny Behringer UB502 mixer. I then take the PC interface output and connect it to the mixer. This way I can montior while recording and still hear PC playback without any mouse clicks or switching. The main output of the Behringer is free to feed a phone patch and the return from the phone patch could go to one more input on the Behringer. The Behringer was only $39 and is simply a mixer for monitoring. Works well.
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