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Melba Sibrel · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 17:06 (GMT) Post subject:

You make a good point, Lucas. I hadn't even thought of it that way. I'm not sure jealousy is as ready a motive as you might think, though. An opinion is, sometimes, just an opinion, with no underlying malicious intent.

I've actually had my video/TV promo writing viciously insulted a couple of times right to my face, but those speaking didn't know they were talking to the writer. I wasn't hurt...maybe they were right, after all. And I certainly didn't think there was jealousy involved. It actually was amusing to me...and I felt a little embarrassed for them, knowing how embarrassed they would be if they knew what they were doing. So I didn't get indignant and I always tried to make sure they didn't know I was the writer. It's all subjective, after all.

Scott Pollak · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 17:08 (GMT) Post subject:

It's the nature of today's world and the net, Lucas. As a matter of fact, people HAVE posted online how much they think my voice sucks. I'm serious and I can direct you to the forum if you want. I did several trailer-style vo's as freebie-favors for a struggling group in England trying to produce a short, internet-only movie version of some comic-book character. The producers and many of their fans loved my v.o. A number did not, though, and posted about how bad they thought it was. C'est la vie. We're in a form of the 'entertainment industry' and if you can't stand the heat, get out of the kitchen. Criticism is a fair and justifiable part of being more or less in the public spotlight. If a celebrity doesn't want their performance or life to be under scrutiny by the public and paparazzi, then they need to find another profession. With the rewards come the risks.

What we have here are opinions. Everyone is entitled to them and personally I think it's okay until or unless it becomes personal and someone decides to throw out scurrilous personal attacks on the person being critiqued instead of sticking to an objective opinion on the person's work.

Lee Gordon · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 17:12 (GMT) Post subject:

Lucas Nugent · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 17:13 (GMT) Post subject:

Wow, Scott, are you serious?

It's the nature of the industry to just post out of the blue how much you hate the Fox guy? I thought you of all people would see my point. Not hide behind the "rules of the internet/entertainment industry".

I'm not talking about "standing the heat", I'm talking about dragging someone's VO work into our forum and just bashing it for no good reason. Not even close to being the same as getting mowed down by a casting director or what have you.

Yes, everyone is entitled to their opinion, but eveyone is also entitled to using some tact and professionalism.

Lucas Nugent · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 17:15 (GMT) Post subject:

Todd Ethridge · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 17:40 (GMT) Post subject:

Concern noted.

You're probably right, but I hope you noticed in my original post, I stated that 98% of the time, I was complimentary of voices I hear when watching TV.

I don't make a habit of bashing others in the industry. Just this one voice stood out. Actually, it's not so much his voice, as it is the echo effect that's on it.

Dave DeAndrea · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 17:55 (GMT) Post subject:

Ya know what the really ironic thing about all of this is? I did a little research and you'll never guess WHO that new Bravo Image Voice is......... yep, you guessed it... Betty White!!!

Allen Brown · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 17:57 (GMT) Post subject:

Scott Pollak · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 18:14 (GMT) Post subject:

Dave DeAndrea · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 18:18 (GMT) Post subject:

Scott Pollak · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 18:19 (GMT) Post subject:

And for those who are interested, here is the link to the trailer I voiced and the comments. Personally, of the three trailers I've voiced for this group, I hate this v/o the most. The other two I liked. Note that some people on this blog love it and others think the v/o sucks. Again, that's okay! Thank God they can voice their opinion.

One guy said:
"I don't like this trailer, I found the voiceover to be more amateurish than anything, and it's really just a rehash of the previous trailers.
When are we going to see something new?"

I'm okay with him thinking that and believe me, I won't be losing sleep over it.

Here's the link:
http://www.payneandredemption.com/blog/comments.php?y=08&m=03&entry=entry080314-211412

Colin Campbell · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 18:34 (GMT) Post subject:

You guys can bash me if you like.

Lucas Nugent · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 18:42 (GMT) Post subject:

Yeah I guess we'll have to agree to disagree. I've tried to make my point a couple times now. I know it's all on the professional level, ie there's no attack on them personally, it just seems a little... needless?

You keep bringing up the movie trailer thing. No, those people really had no right to say man that sucked, and it's pretty much the same thing as this thread. And as for us saying to eachother man take that off your site; we know eachother. And (I'm pretty sure) no one here knows these guys. And besides, you just can't compare. You're an intelligent guy, tell me you see the difference.

All I'm saying is, I don't see the point in just out of the blue posting how you can't stand someone's voice work. Just because it's happened to you doesn't make it ok.

I just don't get it.

How is it productive to just rip on someone out of nowhere? It's not very comforting to know that down the road, if I get somewhere good, that people like this* will feel entitled to post my stuff and say out of nowhere, man this guy sucks!!

Anyways I'll wrap it up here I guess. Agree to disagree and all that.

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* - I say that because I know the mentality of the net population, I'm not talking about that. I'm talking about fellow professionals who are nice to eachother and show support, for the most part.

Todd Ethridge · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 18:42 (GMT) Post subject:

Shut up, Colin!!

Wink

John Bigl · Posted: Tue Apr 08, 2008, 19:07 (GMT) Post subject:

okay ... time for a group hug ... except that guy w/ the Bea Arthur fetish Wink