Watermarks, lets here your example.

Colin Campbell · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007, 20:58 (GMT) Post subject:

On the fade out technique, I've wondered if they sometimes to a little "tag" from some yocal and use the 90 percent you gave them. Just a thought.

Amy Snively · **Voice Talent** Joined: 04 Jul 2005 Posts: 1028

I fade out before a tag would come in.

George Karnes · **Voice Talent** Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 905

Allen-
You are right, this is something that V123 should deal with for us. It would be easy to incorporate something when we upload our demo. That way, the watermark is the same for everyone and standardises it.

I usually change the copy. I try to do it in a way that is so obvious that it doesn't seem like I miss read it, but still an automated system would be much better.

Freddie Molina · Posted: Mon Feb 12, 2007, 23:51 (GMT) Post subject:

George Karnes · **Voice Talent** Joined: 26 Dec 2006 Posts: 905

That Freddie-
He never forgets.

I know it is coming, we are just your power user group and we want it last Thursday. Wink

Freddie Molina · Posted: Tue Feb 13, 2007, 19:58 (GMT) Post subject:

Daniel "Millvoice" Miller · **Voice Talent** Joined: 28 Mar 2007 Posts: 2

Hello all. I'm nearly ready to begin recording from my home studio. Like many of you, I'm concerned over the security of my audition. I like the advice from others here on watermarking their work -- but am still curious about something. I'm currently using Audacity. If I insert a few random "silences" "white noise" or "tones" (available in the editing menu) -- then make an Mp3 or Wav from it, can it still be "doctored" to sound like the original? I dont think it can. Besides, unlike using fades or word omissions/substitutions, wouldn't this make it a lot easier to retain your original auditon (not submitted to client) and, if approved, use IT for the gig if you get it? Your ideas and feedback welcomed. Thanks, Daniel.

Ronald T Robinson · **Voice Talent** Joined: 22 Apr 2004 Posts: 1008

Forget about watermarking. Just give them portions of the script.

I mean, hell, if we can't establish the character in 10 seconds, we're in the wrong end of the business.

Practically, how many of the characters we perform go through any more than one, insipid, stereotypical emotion anyway.....?

I know. I know. Sometimes we'll find a complete script that's fun and we'll give the whole thing "the treatment" so we can get it up on Savvy for our pals to consider.

But, it's still not required for a Seeker..... unless somebody's trying to pull a fast one. (Not that that ever happens....) muede

Thomas C. Gass · **Voice Talent** Joined: 11 May 2006 Posts: 179

Daniel

Ronald is 110% right - nevertheless if you feel you need to stick to the "watermark" solution, feel free to send me your watermarked demo. I'ld be happy to send your demo back to you *without* watermark. Maybe this test might convince you that watermarking really isn't the way to go...

Cheers

Thomas

Hail Wilson · **Voice Talent** Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 78

Hail Wilson · **Voice Talent** Joined: 11 Dec 2006 Posts: 78

I just add an additional track where I say softly enough not to interfere, but still noticeable enough where the spot can't be used...."Audition", about once every 10 seconds or so.

Debbie Deutsch · **Voice Talent** Joined: 25 Oct 2006 Posts: 1338

Lynne Alston · **Voice Talent** Joined: 20 Oct 2006 Posts: 743

Quote Debbie"Say instead, "Pick Me" softly enough not to interfere!"

Oh Debbie, I love your idea, I hear those subliminal messages work so well, shoot, I have a house full of Sh** to prove it!

Lynne

Lance Blair · Posted: Sun May 27, 2007, 02:51 (GMT) Post subject:

I just set the compressor to "Oscar the Grouch" remove all of 2kHz and rattle some pots and pans in the background. Wink

No, I do the fade-out. Beeping watermarks are more appropriate for music so that you can't loop it.

Grant Holmes · **Voice Talent** Joined: 02 Oct 2006 Posts: 265

Ima Newbie here,

I've read this thread and others like it in the forum. I don't understand the difference between thinking, "If I use an audible watermark, people will think I don't trust them/doesn't look professional/whatever" and changing an address/phone number/etc.

At the end of the day, you're saying that you DON'T trust them and you're trying to protect your work. Isn't doing ANYTHING other than completely reading the script the way its presented the same thing?

Why not record portions of the script on separate tracks, then overlap them by 2-3 seconds?

I agree that having 123 doing something is better.

I'm having trouble believing that clients out there are thinking, "Hey, I can get a demo from 'xxxxx' then we'll spend an hour cleaning it up so we can use it without paying for it."

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