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Jodi Krangle
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I've been sort of putting this off.... but I've had these demos for a bit now so I couldn't excuse myself any longer.
There's a commercial and a narration demo. They were recorded locally and then mixed by the folks at SuchAVoice.com .
Your thoughts would be appreciated. Thanks, guys!
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Lee Kanne
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Hi Jodi,
Overall, I feel your technique could benefit from more voice acting skills. Your delivery is a little too "announcery" for my tastes. For the most part, I didn't feel like you were connected to the material in a real, conversational and natural way.
As far as the actual demos:
The commercial demo needs to start out stronger. I didn't understand "World Wildlife Fund", it seemed a little mushy. The "kids" spot I thought would have worked better if you would have been a bit more playful with it and varied the inflection when describing the different animals. The Ethan Allen spot was by far your strongest spot, although it ends kind of weird. I know some don't like characters and dialects in a commercial demo, I thought maybe a hint of french accent in that last spot might have made it work a little better and made the punch line at the end a bit more effective.
The narration demo is too long, or seems too long.....I really didn't get the first spot at all....the technical narrative was by far the strongest...the characters didn't really work for me, and I thought the spot at the end was pretty darn good...in fact, the audio book end of it seems to be your forte...So why not make that a separate demo?
So if it was my narrative demo, I would take out everything but the technical narration, add a voice message, a historical narrative, a different biographical narrative or a geographical narrative, and an industrial/corporate/trade show narrative..
Hey, it's easy to give criticism, a lot harder to actually do it.
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Jodi Krangle
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008, 04:42 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Thanks, Lee. I appreciate the insightful comments. I'll definitely be working on sounding more conversational. Some of the projects I've been working on since recording for these demos have allowed me to get a little more into that. I'll definitely be taking some classes in the near future.
Most of my experience with voice has been on the singing end of things - emoting on a stage. That's quite a bit different from VO, though it certainly has helped me out rather than having to start completely from scratch.
When you say that the World Wildlife Fund spot sounded "mushy", did you mean recording-wise or just in tone?
As for the International Coffee commercial, I think the humor behind that is that the person speaking *isn't* particularly worldly. It just makes her feel that way.  (Ie: so that average folks can relate. ) But that's definitely an interesting suggestion. 
I see what you're saying about the narration demo. I do have some previous voice message projects where I've gotten permission to use them as demos if I wanted to. I'm also currently working on the narration for a WWII documentary about what happened on Saipan during that war. Adding some of that to a future narration demo might work very well.
I'll be keeping your suggestions in mind as I continue finding (and hopefully getting) more work and reworking this demo. It's an ongoing process.
Thanks again for taking the time to listen!
All the best,
--Jodi
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Lee Kanne
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008, 05:02 (GMT) Post subject: |
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My background is singing too, in fact I have a BFA in Vocal Performance....I like to think that voiceovers, when done well, have sort of musical, rhythmic resonance to them. So in that respect, I feel they are very much related.
The glue that holds it all together for me is the acting.. and improv...the basic tenents of acting, who am I talking to? why? what happened before? what's in my way? how am I going to accomplish what I want to accomplish?, etc..... these are the basics that need to be applied to a song, and a voiceover as well.
Some of consonants in "world wildlife fun" were not clear to me, so it was more of an enunciation problem...
If that was your idea behind the International Coffee spot I would take it a lot further because it didn't really play for me, and it wasn't clear, the way you described it.
I would like to hear you do that WW II narration, I'll bet you would do a great job. let's have a listen when you're done!!
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Jodi Krangle
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008, 05:18 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Lee Kanne wrote: | | My background is singing too, in fact I have a BFA in Vocal Performance....I like to think that voiceovers, when done well, have sort of musical, rhythmic resonance to them. So in that respect, I feel they are very much related. |
I totally agree. I even mention that on my website on the main page.
| Quote: | | The glue that holds it all together for me is the acting.. and improv...the basic tenents of acting, who am I talking to? why? what happened before? what's in my way? how am I going to accomplish what I want to accomplish?, etc..... these are the basics that need to be applied to a song, and a voiceover as well. |
Understood. I could definitely use some acting classes to refine and work on that.
| Quote: | | Some of consonants in "world wildlife fun" were not clear to me, so it was more of an enunciation problem... |
I see. Ok. I'll have to be careful about that.
| Quote: | | If that was your idea behind the International Coffee spot I would take it a lot further because it didn't really play for me, and it wasn't clear, the way you described it. |
Understood. Actually, when I was talking with the producer, my initial take on that commercial was to play it kind of more serious and less smiley on the initial part of it, then go kind of smiley and amused on the "cable guy" part. I think I actually did it that way for a take or two too, but he really liked it the other way around. Again, acting lessons would probably have made that play better.
| Quote: | | I would like to hear you do that WW II narration, I'll bet you would do a great job. let's have a listen when you're done!! |
I'll certainly let folks hear it when it's all finished. (Or a portion of it because it's about a 40 minute or so film.  ) I'll be doing a bit more work on it over the next week or so because of some script changes on the client's part, but in general, it's going very well (and really, it's a true pleasure to work on. The producer's father took some *stunning* kodachrome pictures of the island during WWII and Amelia Earhart factors into it too. It's a fascinating story.)
The client initially decided to hire me for the project after listening to a bunch of demos on that other voice marketplace site and particularly liking one of mine (the Gateways demo). Just chose me out of the blue. There wasn't even an audition process. Gotta love it when *that* happens.
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Lee Kanne
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008, 05:47 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Jodi Krangle wrote: |
| Quote: | | If that was your idea behind the International Coffee spot I would take it a lot further because it didn't really play for me, and it wasn't clear, the way you described it. |
Understood. Actually, when I was talking with the producer, my initial take on that commercial was to play it kind of more serious and less smiley on the initial part of it, then go kind of smiley and amused on the "cable guy" part. I think I actually did it that way for a take or two too, but he really liked it the other way around. Again, acting lessons would probably have made that play better.
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Actually, if your original intent is to portray a person who is not worldly that is trying to be worldly, then I think your and the producers approach aren't making that intent clear, at least not to me.
that's why I suggested the french accent, actually a "bad" french accent would be better because it's her lame attempt to make herself super sophisticated and worldly......then the person at the end (I'm assuming it's another person), butts in at the end and bursts her bubble with the cable guy comment. the voice at the end then needs to be very much contrasted with the main character
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Jodi Krangle
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008, 05:53 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Lee Kanne wrote: | | that's why I suggested the french accent, actually a "bad" french accent would be better because it's her lame attempt to make herself super sophisticated and worldly......then the person at the end (I'm assuming it's another person), butts in at the end and bursts her bubble with the cable guy comment. the voice at the end then needs to be very much contrasted with the main character |
Ahhhh. I see what you mean. The spot was originally for one voice, which is probably why (and my not "thinking outside the box" probably didn't help matters) it didn't occur to me to vary the voice. That's definitely an interesting take though. And I could probably do a *bad* French accent just fine.
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Lee Kanne
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| Posted: Thu Apr 24, 2008, 06:19 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Jodi Krangle wrote: |
Ahhhh. I see what you mean. The spot was originally for one voice, which is probably why (and my not "thinking outside the box" probably didn't help matters) it didn't occur to me to vary the voice. That's definitely an interesting take though. And I could probably do a *bad* French accent just fine. |
You can keep it for one voice, but then I think you need to re-write the copy to read "perhaps the cable guy can join ME in a cup". ... and I think by varying the voice it becomes a lot clearer and plays
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Jodi Krangle
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| Lee Kanne wrote: | | You can keep it for one voice, but then I think you need to re-write the copy to read "perhaps the cable guy can join ME in a cup". ... and I think by varying the voice it becomes a lot clearer and plays |
I see what you're saying. I do like doing humor - but I suspect that if I was going to do more for a demo, I'd choose another spot entirely. (The folks who supplied the scripts really didn't *have* much in the way of humor. This was as good as it got.) Ah well. Thanks for the insight, Lee. I appreciate your taking the time.
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