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Brice Lewis Voice Talent - Voice Seeker

Joined: 02 Apr 2007 Posts: 104
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008, 16:08 (GMT) Post subject: |
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As a broadcaster in the process of trying to make the jump to full-time voice over work, let me throw thirty years of experience your way. Right now is NOT a good time to get into broadcasting. Radio stations are running leaner, with staffers voicetracking multiple stations in the chain; what few part time positions are available are mostly board ops (no talking) and all are minimum wage.
You would be better served spending the money a broadcast school would cost on voice training, the proper home studio, and someone to direct you in a decent demo. From then out, it's all you. Of course, there's continuing education in seminars and sessions with many of the folk you can find in these forums. |
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Lee Gordon Voice Talent

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 1549
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008, 17:02 (GMT) Post subject: |
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To continue with Brice's thought -- and not to put too fine a point on it -- if you are looking for a way to generate income, you can make just as much money these days (if not more) working at McDonalds. And you don't have to pay $10,000+ in tuition to learn how to flip burgers. _________________ For more voice over demos, my life story, and other foolishness, please visit my website at www.leegordonproductions.com |
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JC Haze Voice Talent

Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 86
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Posted: Sat May 24, 2008, 17:18 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Clinton and everyone else,
Sad but ALL very true. I hate to tell someone NOT to reach for their dreams...but....
After 28 years of fulltime radio, I have decided to keep doing P/T radio in Boston, and build my VO business.
Radio fact: 10% of radio talents make 80% of the money. The rest of us gobble up the remaining scraps (and that's being generous).
I was just sick & tired of making someone ELSE rich, while I try and figure out how to pay my oil bill, or update my 1997 Caravan.
Now...I'm doin' it all for ME (and the family, of course).
So my advice for you....Do what's best for YOU! _________________ JC Haze Voiceworks
www.JCHaze.com |
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Scott Pollak Voice Talent - Voice Seeker

Joined: 05 Mar 2004 Posts: 3828
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008, 19:54 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Sorry to revive this thread, and I don't know how many folks will even re-visit it, but I just now got another re-affirmation of the pathetic pay of this type of profession (broadcasting, not v/o).
Was on CNN.com where I was reading an article titled "Amazing Gigs from A-Z" where they list a bunch of careers that they term 'amazing' and why. Along with that they list average salaries. For reasons I don't really agree with, they listed news reporter or broadcaster as an 'amazing' career. However, the average listed salary, which seems pretty accurate, at $33,470, is well down towards the bottom end of the salaries of all the jobs mentioned. If you're interested, here's the link:
http://www.cnn.com/2008/LIVING/worklife/06/11/cb.amazing.jobs/index.html _________________ Scott R. Pollak
Warm. Real. Natural.
www.voicebyscott.com
SaVoa 07003 |
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John Weeks Voice Talent

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 186
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008, 20:45 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | However, the average listed salary, which seems pretty accurate, at $33,470, is well down towards the bottom end of the salaries of all the jobs mentioned |
Try to find that salary in a medium to small market.
Radio is in a pathetic state. _________________ John Weeks
www.johnweeksaudio.com |
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Lee Gordon Voice Talent

Joined: 22 Oct 2004 Posts: 1549
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008, 21:04 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Yeah, $33,470 seems a bit high to me. Must be those major markets pulling the average up. I'll bet the mean salary is closer to $27K. _________________ For more voice over demos, my life story, and other foolishness, please visit my website at www.leegordonproductions.com |
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John Weeks Voice Talent

Joined: 04 Jun 2005 Posts: 186
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008, 21:14 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Quote: | | Yeah, $33,470 seems a bit high to me. Must be those major markets pulling the average up. I'll bet the mean salary is closer to $27K. |
I think you hit the nail on the head. I applied for part time work in the small town where I live just to stay in the biz and I was offered the morning show for a whopping $10 an hour. The guy told me that remotes pay much better, $15 an hour. Needless to say, I declined.
Back in the 80's I was making $35,000 to do middays and a new company bought the station and said the new pay scale for middays was $18,000. They said that because I was doing voice work and didn't need the money I was taking the biggest salary hit. I turned it around and told them what I would do for $18,000.
Instead of 9 am to 2 pm, I'd do 9 to Noon and an hour of production instead of 3. Also, no weekends. They bought it and I did that for 2 years until I jumped off that sinking ship. The company took a station that had been number 1 for 9 years straight and dropped it down to 5 or 6. _________________ John Weeks
www.johnweeksaudio.com |
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JC Haze Voice Talent

Joined: 10 Aug 2007 Posts: 86
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Posted: Mon Jun 16, 2008, 21:22 (GMT) Post subject: |
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...and THAT's why there's such FINE talent in radio today. Because of General Managers, Programming heads, and owners who don't understand the old saying "GARBAGE IN....GARBAGE OUT." MOst of 'em are just a bunch of F#@ _________________ JC Haze Voiceworks
www.JCHaze.com |
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Lisa Foster Voice Talent

Joined: 13 Sep 2006 Posts: 24
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008, 03:45 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Oh good grief, ya all got my dander up again about the radio biz! Wow - $15 and hour for a remote? Unbelievable - I can remember the days I pulled in $100 an HOUR for a remote - in a number 14 radio market! Yeah, just can't command those dollars these days - been in a steep decline in the last 3-5 years - I bailed in 2005 and haven't looked back!  |
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Clinton Nobles Voice Talent

Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 197
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008, 14:35 (GMT) Post subject: |
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It is really sad how that is happening. Radio is such a part of Americana and I hate to see it suffering a slow painful death.
On a side note and touching on the first part of this thread. Next week I go to Nashville and tour the CBS also they are letting me get in on a Workshop they are having! I am really excited about this. That makes two workshops one Sat Morning and One Sunday.
Stoked!!! _________________ If the world ever joins together as one voice . . . they need to make sure they are copying mine hahahaha
http://clintonnobles.com |
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Scott Pollak Voice Talent - Voice Seeker

Joined: 05 Mar 2004 Posts: 3828
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Posted: Tue Jun 17, 2008, 16:55 (GMT) Post subject: |
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Clinton... anytime you're in the Atlanta area on a weekend, feel free to call me and if I'm on the air at 104.7 The Fish you're welcome to drop by the studio for a visit. My phone number is on my website.
This offer is good for any of you fine folks either here in Atlanta or visiting. _________________ Scott R. Pollak
Warm. Real. Natural.
www.voicebyscott.com
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Clinton Nobles Voice Talent

Joined: 25 Mar 2008 Posts: 197
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Posted: Wed Jun 18, 2008, 13:14 (GMT) Post subject: |
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| Scott Pollak wrote: | Clinton... anytime you're in the Atlanta area on a weekend, feel free to call me and if I'm on the air at 104.7 The Fish you're welcome to drop by the studio for a visit. My phone number is on my website.
This offer is good for any of you fine folks either here in Atlanta or visiting. |
Thank you sir! I will certainly take you up on this offer. Making new friends is a hobby of mine that and burying the old ones hahahaha _________________ If the world ever joins together as one voice . . . they need to make sure they are copying mine hahahaha
http://clintonnobles.com |
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Allison Scussel Voice Talent

Joined: 25 Apr 2007 Posts: 928
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Posted: Fri Jun 20, 2008, 02:37 (GMT) Post subject: |
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After reading the average salary quotes, I'm one lucky lady! I'm in a medium market, make more than the national average, and get $75 per hour for a remote with a two hour minimum.
So when the Gen Sales Manager pisses me off, ignorance is the best policy.
BTW: I'm not lounging in a 25K sq foot house with a hot tub. Budgeting is still a prerequisite in this career..... and looking for a SWM in the medical profession. LOL  _________________ AllisonScussel@comcast.net |
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